what would you do part of the government's monopoly? one school chancellor fired under performing teachers. that made teachers mad. >> she's misled, misguided, and doing that to other people. >> she's not trained, doesn't know what real teaching is. john: what a terrible choice to lead schools and called the hatchet lady. "time" made her look like a witch. who is this awful person? let's ask her. michelle rhe, joins us from california. you made people mad. >> yes, i did. >> you fired 36 principals, 200 some teachers, closed school, and eventually pushed out in washington, d.c.. >> yeah. well, remember, that when i took over the district, it was the lowest performing and most distucksal district in the entire country. what i did were things i thought were obvious, close low performing failing schools failing children for decades. i'm going to fire ineffective employees, pay the effective ones more money, cut a central office bureaucracy out of control in half. those were the things i knew needed to get done if we were going to fix the sy